Thursday, February 28, 2008
Beware of "zombie debt" -- you may not owe it
ABC “Good Morning America” on Feb. 28 carried a brief story on “zombie debt.” This refers to a practice of banks selling very old uncollected debts to collection agencies (often they will sell a $1000 debt for about $100) and then the debt collectors pursue the consumers aggressively, and get to keep the profit. This sort of business is distinct from more common debt collection practices, where the creditor owns the debt and the debt collecting company (and sometimes individual collection employee) earns a “commission” on the collection once it is actually paid.
According to the ABC story, most states have statutes of limitations on debts, and it is illegal to post a overly aged but previously unknown debt on a credit report. However, many consumers do not know this. Some practices of these companies would violate both the Fair Credit Reporting Act and the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
I had an episode like this. In February of 2000, while living in Minneapolis, I decided to pursue the idea of buying a house. I pulled a credit report by mail (it was not as automated yet and the laws requiring annual free reports were not yet in effect) and found a “bed debt” for a $17 Discover Card charge, that had compounded to $45 back from 1994, and a Chase debt of $625 that belonged to a credit agency in New York City. I went ahead a settled with Discover myself for the $17 (it had been a card renewal charge that got lost when I moved, and then I dropped the card), and they removed the item. Then I called the collection agency about the Chase. They claimed that I had taken the card out in 1980, and the debt principal had been $129. They claimed it had belonged to Chemical Bank, which has since been bought. It is true that I probably did have a Chemical Visa in the 1980s. They also claimed that they had mailed the debt to my 11th Street address in New York City. Well, I had moved to Dallas in January 1979, so the timing of the events did not make sense. It is possible that a debt had been lost in the moves. Yet, I bought condos in 1980 and again in 1984, and it did not show up on mortgage credit reports. My employer then, Chilton Corporation (ironically a credit reporting company in Dallas, since bought by TRW and now known as Experian) did security credit checks on all its employees in 1987, and the debt did not turn up then, even if lost. I would have settled if it had. So, why now?
The New York City collection agency became very belligerent and threatened to sue me. Because the mortgage company in Minnesota said that this would have to be settled for me to pursue a house, I paid it. But it looks now like this was illegal. The credit reporting companies should not have reported an item that old, and apparently I could not have been held responsible for the money. Even the Minnesota mortgage company should have known that.
I even wonder if old assumed mortgages (unqualified or “subject-to” assumptions) before the 1990s could come back as “zombie debts.”
ABC also indicated that many times the charges are fraudulent, and related to identity theft, which, even when cleared, come back as “zombie debt.”
To add to the irony, I worked as a debt collector myself in Minnesota in 2003 for a while before moving back to the East, for a company called RMA. But I did not work on any line of business like this. Another “interesting” line of business is medical collections. When a collector calls a debtor, he or she starts with a “mini-miranda” statement.
The ABC link is here.
The story is called "Zombie Debt: The Bills That Won't Die: One Woman Sued to Stop the Harassing Phone Calls."